GAY BLOG BR talked to the artist, in a very relaxed way, about receiving the tribute and his plans for the future. Among the topics covered, the singer from “Pocnejo” spoke about the sertanejo area and the feeling of being the son of Solimões, one of the legends of the Brazilian musical genre.
“I have always felt pressure, too, for not being that countryman’s son who ‘honors his father’, and who is rustic “, said the singer.
How did you react when you found out that you had won the PocAwards trophy for Brazilian Poc Musician? Was it expected?
I was in shock! Even more knowing that it was by popular vote. I was very happy to have been nominated and to know that people like my work! It was definitely not expected, and when the prize arrived, I was all silly. Now it’s here on my shelf waiting for the next prizes (hahaha).
The pandemic certainly took the artistic sector by surprise. Many found themselves in very difficult situations, since the work has to deal with the public and people were at home. How did you deal with that time? Did you take the opportunity to produce and have ideas or did you try to rest and not charge yourself too much for not freaking out?
At first, I thought it would be a moment that I would take advantage of to create a lot, compose a lot and have several ideas. After a few weeks, I found myself in a gigantic creative block. I think this whole situation has affected everyone’s psychological situation a lot. In my case, I demanded myself for a while, putting pressure on myself, I had some intense anxiety attacks in the last few months and now I have tried to balance things in my life so that I don’t go crazy, without pressure, without charge. As I already had some songs ready before the start of the pandemic, I took the opportunity to revisit them, re-record some things that were bothering me, and then release the album that I have been producing for almost two years (haha).
His hit “Amor Rural” has over a million views. A humorous lyrics and speaks of homosexuality with extreme tranquility. How did you come to this definition of musical aesthetics?
I have always had many musical and aesthetic references from the sertanejo and country. Throughout my life I acquired other references when I entered more and more a more pop universe. Putting it all together really impresses what I am, what I like, what I hear, what I sing. I love the simplicity of the sertanejo root aesthetics, I love the extravagant and bright looks of American country and all the boldness of pop culture, I feel like I am a little bit of each of these things.
Have you ever had a rural love?
Not literally rural (haha)! Many believe that I live in the interior, that I actually have this rural life, but all of this is a cultural rescue. But I did have a relationship where “the night was daring and the day was cloudy”. My first relationship was troubled in that sense, because his family did not accept it so we ended up living a hidden relationship, for a while it worked, but got to a point that was unsustainable.
Her latest release, “Pistoleira”, with Alice Marcone, has a line that says “this maiden is a pistoleira”. Is it an autobiographical song?
It’s a song that I identify with a lot! The conception came from Alice, it is her autobiographical lyrics, although I also helped in the composition. I believe that this song impresses her position as a trans woman, who often run into cis men who are not willing to be involved emotionally with a trans woman, are not willing to take on relationships… This maiden is a gunfighter, if this guy is willing, she will unload this passion with him, but if not, she puts a bullet in him and he kisses the floor. At the same time that she brings this narrative, there is a western mood of bang bang movies. I identified a lot with all this when Alice invited me, obviously, in my social place as a man, cis, gay, but being effeminate I have already encountered situations where I felt like a gunfighter, in some of them we unloaded the passion in others it was BANG.
In common sense, even for situations that came to the media, the sertanejo is considered to be very sexist. But you already claimed to have received a lot of support, conversation and understanding from your father. Do you feel it coming from colleagues on the scene or is the relationship more complicated when it comes to sexuality?
It is important to affirm first of all that no conscious discourse on minorities has entered the sertanejo yet and I think that if that happens one day, it will be much more in the future. As much as I grew up with the countryman at home, I am not present in the sertaneja scene, so many things don’t even reach me, what they are thinking, what they are finding – most of the time I don’t know, because I don’t get a lot of feedback from this universe. Everything positive that I received at the beginning of my career comes from a much more pop, indie, independent place, from another music scene. Of course there are exceptions! I was beside myself when I realized that Lauana Prado, who is in the market mainstream, follow me on Instagram, in addition to a lot of older women, who occasionally comment that they are very fans of my father and that they are now my fans. It is not always, but it happens.
There are many stereotypes in the gay community, with regard to the standard gay (healed, handsome and young), have you ever felt pressured by this imposed standardization?
All my life I felt pressured by imposed standards, I believe that all effeminate gay men. At school I corresponded to the “fagot” stereotype who hated football and was only close to the girls. We know that it is not a rule, but I was like that, and this throughout my school life weighed on my psychological for obvious reasons: exclusion, mockery, anyway… I always felt pressure because I was not that country boy who ‘honors his father’, which is rough and rustic. Among gays it is obvious that this does not cease to exist, there is this oppression in relation to the femininity of some men. I already felt a lot of pressure for that, today I am a little better resolved about that. Of course, it does not mean that this prejudice has ceased to exist.
Is it, in some way, a responsibility for you to be the son of a living Sertanejo legend like Solimões? Do you feel that pressure?
I have always felt this pressure coming from people because I am the son of a famous sertanejo singer. This pressure comes in several ways: either because I am gay and, according to some people, “being a disgrace to my father”, or because of a more musical bias, because for many years I walked away and renounced the sertanejo, for lack of identification, for not agreeing with millions and millions of things in between. Today, with my artistic projects and my clearest plans in my head, these things no longer affect me so much, because I know why I’m doing it and where I want to go, so I don’t feel like pressure anymore, I feel that is exactly that, a responsibility, to understand where I come from, what my background is, the doors that open because of that and what I can do with it. But I cannot lie and say that it is always that I deal with this responsibility well, like anybody else I have my good and bad moments.
You said, in a recent interview, that you did theater when you were younger, even encouraged by your father. Do you intend to merge careers in the future, as other singers did? How would you like to act if you had the chance?
My time in theater was fundamental for the formation of the person I have been building, a time of great discovery, much reflection and self-understanding. I believe that I already bring some of that baggage to my work, of course by way of comedy for now, but this is also theater. In Sugar Daddy I was acting, roughly, but I was (hahaha). But I imagine myself exploring this theatrical side more in my career in different ways, with more dramatic, more naturalistic things, I don’t know, anything is possible. I would like one day to have the opportunity to act in a movie, series, or to participate in a soap opera, who knows?
You are only 22 years old and have a career with many possibilities ahead of you. What are your plans for the future? Do you think about taking chances in other styles, trying to partner with other artists? 2021 promises anything new?
I am currently very focused on my first album, which will be released later this semester. I have some other plans for more distant futures, but today I can only think about this project, which until then is the biggest of my life. This album is a trip to different places, times and contexts, an experimentation of possibilities within sertanejo music, mixing pop, country, Latin music, funk, everything you can imagine, besides containing more than special participations. I think that’s what I can say about the album, for now. I have some other partnerships that will come out this year too, but that do not depend on me, they are projects of other artists, all very dear.